Why CoffeeRatings.com is run by a bunch of map Luddites
Posted by TheShot on 15 Jul 2010 | Tagged as: CoffeeRatings.com, Consumer Trends, Quality Issues
A long time ago we decided that coffee maps were an odd Internet fetish. Over the years we’ve been approached by people with special Internet maps APIs (call it Internet software for short), requests for Google maps views, and people building just about every coffee map variant under the sun. More recently, we have the local SF rag, 7×7, promoting their own “Third Wave” coffee map: Fully Caffeinated: A Citywide Map of Third Wave Coffee | 7×7. Never mind what arbitrary standards 7×7 uses to determine whether a place is “Third Wave” or not. (Arbitrary standards being one of our oldest pet peeves about anything published about coffee.)
And yet when it comes to coffee maps, this is still the only thing CoffeeRatings.com supports. Why is that? Are we just lazy? In a word, yes. It is minimal effort to export our database to link to mapping software. In fact, every one of our review pages have addresses auto-linked to Google maps.
But quality-ranked views of coffee shops, few and far between on the Internet, have always been more important to us than something that favors geographic proximity. Because if you are primarily driven by proximity, quality becomes secondary at best by definition. You can color-code the café markers in some mapping APIs — so that you can introduce an additional dimension of quality in a coffee map — but our experiments with that did not produce satisfying results. Furthermore, a city map with over 650 data points is information overload — and takes forever to load in a Web browser, let alone a mobile phone.
Are coffee maps useful beyond a visual exercise?
Coffee maps are far more ubiquitous on the Internet than quality-driven listings, and the criteria for including a café or not in these maps are typically arbitrary. (This is another reason why we wanted the café rankings on CoffeeRatings.com to be inclusive, to the tune of 650+ data points, rather than exclusive.) Case and point with 7×7: here some bizarrely subjective measure of “third waveness” is supposed to be a surrogate for coffee quality. And in the end, we are looking for good coffee, not good branding. We honestly don’t care what self-ordained wave a coffee shop belongs to.
Then take the typical San Francisco experience, where even the definition of proximity gets warped by things like parking availability and public transit lines. And while there are a lot of Internet beer maps for pub crawls, coffee crawls? Seriously? Who can honestly make a day of a dozen espresso drinks?
Lastly, we just don’t get the coffee map obsession. Sure, we know it exists. We just don’t understand the point beyond a visual exercise, rather than one of appreciating good coffee. In a way, we liken it to something Ian McKaye, founding guitarist of the seminal D.C. straight-edge band Fugazi, once told us long ago: “People are always asking us for Fugazi T-shirts. I honestly don’t understand the connection between music and a T-shirt.” (A position which spawned a number of unauthorized “This is not a Fugazi T-shirt” peddlers.)
UPDATE: April 19, 2013
A recent Harris Poll survey seems to back a bit of our madness here, suggesting that for most consumers quality is more important than convenience: Harris Interactive: Harris Polls > Battle of the Brew; Americans Choose Taste Over Convenience When Coffee Shops Go Head to Head. (Huff Post link.) According to their survey, people go out of their way to find coffee that tastes better. Hence all these “coffee map”-driven blogs, web sites, and mobile apps that use location as the primary discriminator between coffeeshops seem a little misguided when a quality-based ranking might serve users better.
We’re just sayin’… ![]()
3 Comments »
An interesting post that helps with my thoughts for my blog.
The problem is sometimes I think like 5% of the general population, which is why I tend to agree with your thinking for maps. I think the vast population would probably still like more maps which explains the popularity of them.
Map is something I added for readers who want to see what is around in a neighbourhood, but I like your table-driven approach better as it helps with geographical proximity, and refocuses on the more important quality. What software do you use for your database driven tables? And may I rip it off?
Good question! This is also a good topic for a future post.
Since we started some 7 years ago with this, we’ve stored our entire ratings database on a mobile phone using some simple relational database software called HanDBase (first on a Palm Treo, now on an iPhone). Exporting that data as a csv, we’re able to apply some custom Perl scripts we wrote to transform it for upload into a hosted MySQL database. It’s this database that sits behind the simple PHP we’ve written for the site.
It’s all pretty custom. But it’s not exactly making us any money to keep as our own.
Very interesting … I’m a .NET programmer, so I’m a bit afraid of the other side … I’ve been looking to do simple table display from MySQL with WordPress, but looks like I have to get my hands more dirty than simply installing a plugin … I’m probably more afraid than I should be … I do really like how you’ve laid everything out … always take inspiration from you site … both layout and your espresso evaluation … thanks