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		<title>By: Fresh Brews: Return Of The Coffee Wars And The Bikini Baristas — Daily Shot Of Coffee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fresh Brews: Return Of The Coffee Wars And The Bikini Baristas — Daily Shot Of Coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Shot The Return of the Coffee Middlemen The Shot looks at the benefits and negatives of the rise of online coffee stores like ROASTe and Go [...]</description>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, I didn&#039;t know Chris Baca moved on to Verve..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, I didn&#8217;t know Chris Baca moved on to Verve..</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were expecting a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/04/BU1S1CAITL.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;formula city journalism puff piece&lt;/a&gt; -- offering free advertising to the &lt;em&gt;business du jour&lt;/em&gt; with quotes from Joe Average Web shopper -- you missed the entire point of the post.

Here&#039;s our journalistic point you should minimally come away with: if you as a consumer support Fair Trade or Direct Trade coffee on principle, then buying coffee through these roasted coffee brokers works directly against your cause.

By adding additional middleman costs to the supply chain, you are effectively cutting into the coffee roaster&#039;s capacity to pay top dollar to their coffee farmers.

We&#039;ll even add a quote in the post above if you prefer sound-bites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were expecting a <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/03/04/BU1S1CAITL.DTL" rel="nofollow">formula city journalism puff piece</a> &#8212; offering free advertising to the <em>business du jour</em> with quotes from Joe Average Web shopper &#8212; you missed the entire point of the post.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s our journalistic point you should minimally come away with: if you as a consumer support Fair Trade or Direct Trade coffee on principle, then buying coffee through these roasted coffee brokers works directly against your cause.</p>
<p>By adding additional middleman costs to the supply chain, you are effectively cutting into the coffee roaster&#8217;s capacity to pay top dollar to their coffee farmers.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll even add a quote in the post above if you prefer sound-bites.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 06:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might suggest turning your suspision into educated jounalist - read websites, use the service and interview other users before you get carried away . They don&quot;t distribute flavored coffee but do send items to help educate consumers  the nuances in coffee he&#039;d ways they can identify them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might suggest turning your suspision into educated jounalist &#8211; read websites, use the service and interview other users before you get carried away . They don&#8221;t distribute flavored coffee but do send items to help educate consumers  the nuances in coffee he&#8217;d ways they can identify them.</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I get your point(s), Señor Anonymous. What exactly are they, really? The post wasn&#039;t about the consumer appreciation for these services -- just their economic viability as middleman businesses. Whether you try these services once or not does not alter their business models nor their economic viability. Although we did try one of these services -- and ROASTe disappointingly screwed up our order by sending us pre-ground instead of the whole bean coffee we ordered -- that information is irrelevant here.

As for Citizen Bean, yes -- they&#039;re the &quot;wine-of-the-month club&quot; analogy that I mentioned. But it doesn&#039;t sound like you even read the post above. Yes, they don&#039;t charge a higher price to consumers. But as we mentioned above, they must cover costs and make payroll -- so they must increase the costs to the coffee roasters. (Hence the travel agent analogy.) As far as priority shipping is concerned, we noted that they have on-demand relationships with their roasters.

So I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re stating here that hasn&#039;t already been said. Other than mentioning &quot;food pairings with each month&#039;s coffees.&quot; We&#039;ve long thought of &lt;em&gt;coffee pairing&lt;/em&gt; as one of the most ridiculous manifestations of the shoehorned &lt;a href=&quot;http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2006/10/the-ever-popular-wine-analogy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wine analogy&lt;/a&gt; placed on coffee. As we said back in 2006, &quot;Coffee pairing integrated into a meal plan makes about as much sense as pairing cigars with each course.&quot; Learning just now that Citizen Bean offers food pairings with their coffee actually makes us suspicious of the quality of their offerings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I get your point(s), Señor Anonymous. What exactly are they, really? The post wasn&#8217;t about the consumer appreciation for these services &#8212; just their economic viability as middleman businesses. Whether you try these services once or not does not alter their business models nor their economic viability. Although we did try one of these services &#8212; and ROASTe disappointingly screwed up our order by sending us pre-ground instead of the whole bean coffee we ordered &#8212; that information is irrelevant here.</p>
<p>As for Citizen Bean, yes &#8212; they&#8217;re the &#8220;wine-of-the-month club&#8221; analogy that I mentioned. But it doesn&#8217;t sound like you even read the post above. Yes, they don&#8217;t charge a higher price to consumers. But as we mentioned above, they must cover costs and make payroll &#8212; so they must increase the costs to the coffee roasters. (Hence the travel agent analogy.) As far as priority shipping is concerned, we noted that they have on-demand relationships with their roasters.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re stating here that hasn&#8217;t already been said. Other than mentioning &#8220;food pairings with each month&#8217;s coffees.&#8221; We&#8217;ve long thought of <em>coffee pairing</em> as one of the most ridiculous manifestations of the shoehorned <a href="http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2006/10/the-ever-popular-wine-analogy/" rel="nofollow">wine analogy</a> placed on coffee. As we said back in 2006, &#8220;Coffee pairing integrated into a meal plan makes about as much sense as pairing cigars with each course.&#8221; Learning just now that Citizen Bean offers food pairings with their coffee actually makes us suspicious of the quality of their offerings.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Citizen Bean for instance is a gift subscription, I&#039;m most cases offer roasters thatcare not available to any other venue, include food pairings with each month&quot;s coffees, do not charge a higher price and ship priority mail to their subscribers to ensure that they get it in days after the roasting date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Citizen Bean for instance is a gift subscription, I&#8217;m most cases offer roasters thatcare not available to any other venue, include food pairings with each month&#8221;s coffees, do not charge a higher price and ship priority mail to their subscribers to ensure that they get it in days after the roasting date.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, wait a second. As a responsible jounalist/ reviewer I assume you have tried these services first hand, know exactly what you get and when?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, wait a second. As a responsible jounalist/ reviewer I assume you have tried these services first hand, know exactly what you get and when?</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good counterpoint, no question, and one that certainly must have come up with investors when reviewing their business plans. Even if printed book and roasted coffee inventories are very different things to manage and sell.

One difference I see is that the offline retail bookstore was an established business long before the Internet came around. In contrast, the aggregating retailer of roasted coffees is a wholly new concept -- whether offline or online. (Given the time-sensitive need to conveniently support just-in-time roasting, it probably could only realistically exist in an online world.)

Another major difference concerns consumer brand loyalties towards roasters versus publishers. If &lt;em&gt;To Kill A Mockingbird&lt;/em&gt; were to change publishers, few would bat an eye. But at least here in SF, for example, you have &quot;blind&quot; loyalists who believe that it&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coffeeratings.com/roaster-view.php?roasterId=10&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Blue Bottle&lt;/a&gt; or nothing. The market for coffee explorers seems all that much smaller.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good counterpoint, no question, and one that certainly must have come up with investors when reviewing their business plans. Even if printed book and roasted coffee inventories are very different things to manage and sell.</p>
<p>One difference I see is that the offline retail bookstore was an established business long before the Internet came around. In contrast, the aggregating retailer of roasted coffees is a wholly new concept &#8212; whether offline or online. (Given the time-sensitive need to conveniently support just-in-time roasting, it probably could only realistically exist in an online world.)</p>
<p>Another major difference concerns consumer brand loyalties towards roasters versus publishers. If <em>To Kill A Mockingbird</em> were to change publishers, few would bat an eye. But at least here in SF, for example, you have &#8220;blind&#8221; loyalists who believe that it&#8217;s <a href="http://www.coffeeratings.com/roaster-view.php?roasterId=10" rel="nofollow">Blue Bottle</a> or nothing. The market for coffee explorers seems all that much smaller.</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say Amazon provides a bit of a counterargument to this post&#039;s premise. People could just buy books directly from publishers&#039; sites, but they head to Amazon instead because products are displayed in user-friendly categories, visitors can read product reviews, and apps like &quot;Others  who bought this also bought...&quot; allow for  discovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say Amazon provides a bit of a counterargument to this post&#8217;s premise. People could just buy books directly from publishers&#8217; sites, but they head to Amazon instead because products are displayed in user-friendly categories, visitors can read product reviews, and apps like &#8220;Others  who bought this also bought&#8230;&#8221; allow for  discovery.</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve actually done that once... but in Hawaii, of all places. Let&#039;s just say that they -- after a back-and-forth on various phone calls up-and-down their management chain -- begrudgingly sold the green beans to me &quot;as a favor&quot;. I was told to keep the deal under wraps, and they hardly gave me much of a discount off the roasted coffee price.

I&#039;m not entirely surprised, since in that exchange the roaster was nothing more than a middleman themselves.

Coincidentally, they are the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/coffee/2010-western-regional-barista/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;employer of the newest Western Regional Barista Competition champion&lt;/a&gt;, Pete Licata, who was announced over the weekend. (The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coffeeratings.com/roaster-view.php?roasterId=136&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Honolulu Coffee Company&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve actually done that once&#8230; but in Hawaii, of all places. Let&#8217;s just say that they &#8212; after a back-and-forth on various phone calls up-and-down their management chain &#8212; begrudgingly sold the green beans to me &#8220;as a favor&#8221;. I was told to keep the deal under wraps, and they hardly gave me much of a discount off the roasted coffee price.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not entirely surprised, since in that exchange the roaster was nothing more than a middleman themselves.</p>
<p>Coincidentally, they are the <a href="http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/coffee/2010-western-regional-barista/" rel="nofollow">employer of the newest Western Regional Barista Competition champion</a>, Pete Licata, who was announced over the weekend. (The <a href="http://www.coffeeratings.com/roaster-view.php?roasterId=136" rel="nofollow">Honolulu Coffee Company</a>.)</p>
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