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	<title>Comments on: Taiwan, Japan, Malaysia, and Vietnam: Coffee culture in Asia</title>
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		<title>By: Enrico</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/11/asias-best-coffee-wsj/comment-page-1/#comment-6112</link>
		<dc:creator>Enrico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get a &quot;real deal&quot; perspective on the &quot;coffee scene&quot; (if that&#039;s even a correct phrase), you might want to ask/e-mail Mr. Toni Wahid (www.cikopi.com). He&#039;s a presence here, I mean, REAL presence. His site is mainly in Indonesian language. 

Just a few years ago Indonesia established SCAI (Specialty Coffee Association of Indonesia - http://www.sca-indo.org/). They&#039;re now actively engaging in activities and events to &quot;...to promote and improve the quality of Arabica coffee grown in Indonesia&quot;. This includes the first coffee auction in Indonesia (http://www.cikopi.com/2010/10/lelang-kopi-pertama-di-indonesia/), holding Indonesia Barista Competition already for a few years now (http://www.barista-indonesia.org/2011/), holding coffee discussions, etc.

Why the &quot;arabica&quot; part is so important? Well because the majority of coffees here are robusta, to fill the really large market of instant coffees here. Many of them are mixed with corn... So to increase volume. So drinking some off-the-shelve, instant coffees, you can see the tiny bits of corn...

And to create coffees that are synonymous with quality beans etc, well you go the arabica way. In Indonesia we got roasters who are already well established for maybe nearly a century, a kind of family business. Some like the Aroma Coffee factory, kept the coffee for 5 to 6 years before further processing. Other roasters can market their roasted beans days after roasting. So it&#039;s very diverse.

And ironically, all this writing above is created by a person who doesn&#039;t have a single machine aside from his grinder, haha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get a &#8220;real deal&#8221; perspective on the &#8220;coffee scene&#8221; (if that&#8217;s even a correct phrase), you might want to ask/e-mail Mr. Toni Wahid (www.cikopi.com). He&#8217;s a presence here, I mean, REAL presence. His site is mainly in Indonesian language. </p>
<p>Just a few years ago Indonesia established SCAI (Specialty Coffee Association of Indonesia &#8211; <a href="http://www.sca-indo.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sca-indo.org/</a>). They&#8217;re now actively engaging in activities and events to &#8220;&#8230;to promote and improve the quality of Arabica coffee grown in Indonesia&#8221;. This includes the first coffee auction in Indonesia (<a href="http://www.cikopi.com/2010/10/lelang-kopi-pertama-di-indonesia/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cikopi.com/2010/10/lelang-kopi-pertama-di-indonesia/</a>), holding Indonesia Barista Competition already for a few years now (<a href="http://www.barista-indonesia.org/2011/" rel="nofollow">http://www.barista-indonesia.org/2011/</a>), holding coffee discussions, etc.</p>
<p>Why the &#8220;arabica&#8221; part is so important? Well because the majority of coffees here are robusta, to fill the really large market of instant coffees here. Many of them are mixed with corn&#8230; So to increase volume. So drinking some off-the-shelve, instant coffees, you can see the tiny bits of corn&#8230;</p>
<p>And to create coffees that are synonymous with quality beans etc, well you go the arabica way. In Indonesia we got roasters who are already well established for maybe nearly a century, a kind of family business. Some like the Aroma Coffee factory, kept the coffee for 5 to 6 years before further processing. Other roasters can market their roasted beans days after roasting. So it&#8217;s very diverse.</p>
<p>And ironically, all this writing above is created by a person who doesn&#8217;t have a single machine aside from his grinder, haha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/11/asias-best-coffee-wsj/comment-page-1/#comment-6107</link>
		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question, Enrico. We believe there&#039;s almost a sort of subtle stereotype when you&#039;re considered a coffee producing nation versus when you are considered a coffee consuming one. The presumption is that coffee producers don&#039;t have a sophisticated coffee palate.

Now we&#039;ve experienced some of the weaker espresso standards in &lt;a href=&quot;http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2008/04/big-island-coffee/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hawaii&lt;/a&gt;, for example -- an example that might back up that stereotype. But one of our most memory coffee experiences also took place there.

We know we would enjoy reading more about Indonesian coffee from a consumer perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Enrico. We believe there&#8217;s almost a sort of subtle stereotype when you&#8217;re considered a coffee producing nation versus when you are considered a coffee consuming one. The presumption is that coffee producers don&#8217;t have a sophisticated coffee palate.</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;ve experienced some of the weaker espresso standards in <a href="http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2008/04/big-island-coffee/" rel="nofollow">Hawaii</a>, for example &#8212; an example that might back up that stereotype. But one of our most memory coffee experiences also took place there.</p>
<p>We know we would enjoy reading more about Indonesian coffee from a consumer perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Enrico</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/11/asias-best-coffee-wsj/comment-page-1/#comment-6106</link>
		<dc:creator>Enrico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indonesia have a lot of distinctive coffee culture all across the provinces. I wonder what&#039;s preventing major regional mass media to cover those places?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indonesia have a lot of distinctive coffee culture all across the provinces. I wonder what&#8217;s preventing major regional mass media to cover those places?</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/11/asias-best-coffee-wsj/comment-page-1/#comment-5069</link>
		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we caught that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/05/DD7V1AE3OC.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;article&lt;/a&gt; on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.coffeeratings.com/roaster-view.php?roasterId=58&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Peerless Coffee&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s hard to say what ruins espresso shots more: Peerless Coffee, or the kind of establishment that decides to save a few bucks by serving Peerless Coffee. We recently listed Peerless as one of our &lt;a href=&quot;http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/07/espresso-quality-signs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forboding signs&lt;/a&gt; that bad espresso is ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we caught that <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/05/DD7V1AE3OC.DTL" rel="nofollow">article</a> on <a href="http://www.coffeeratings.com/roaster-view.php?roasterId=58" rel="nofollow">Peerless Coffee</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to say what ruins espresso shots more: Peerless Coffee, or the kind of establishment that decides to save a few bucks by serving Peerless Coffee. We recently listed Peerless as one of our <a href="http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/07/espresso-quality-signs/" rel="nofollow">forboding signs</a> that bad espresso is ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chronicle just published an article on peerless&#039; history. Would love to hear your thoughts on a local company that though haven&#039;t had many memorable cups from are still the standout coffee for cyrus and gary danko?? No need to reiterate your thoughts on restaurant coffee though ... i work at foreign cinema and we rely on roma. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chronicle just published an article on peerless&#8217; history. Would love to hear your thoughts on a local company that though haven&#8217;t had many memorable cups from are still the standout coffee for cyrus and gary danko?? No need to reiterate your thoughts on restaurant coffee though &#8230; i work at foreign cinema and we rely on roma. . .</p>
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