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	<title>Comments on: The Gibraltar: Fool&#8217;s Cappuccino</title>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/04/gibraltar-the-fools-cappuccino/comment-page-1/#comment-5011</link>
		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Duralex Picardie sounds pretty much the same as the Gibraltar in concept, purpose, etc.

As for a flat white, calling it a &quot;cappuccino&quot; is fighting words in Australia and New Zealand. I know better than to go there. ;) But my understanding is that it lacks foam and is closer to a &quot;stronger&quot; (in coffee terms) latte served in a smaller vessel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Duralex Picardie sounds pretty much the same as the Gibraltar in concept, purpose, etc.</p>
<p>As for a flat white, calling it a &#8220;cappuccino&#8221; is fighting words in Australia and New Zealand. I know better than to go there. <img src='http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  But my understanding is that it lacks foam and is closer to a &#8220;stronger&#8221; (in coffee terms) latte served in a smaller vessel.</p>
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		<title>By: Pangi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pangi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 14:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Greg,
Thanks for that article, I found it a bit of a laugh and an interesting fill in the gap piece. I&#039;ve starting seeing this gibraltar around the place and wondered what the buzz was.

Couple of things, first off, ever heard of a piccolo latte? It&#039;s apparently common in NZ and Australia. From what I&#039;ve read it&#039;s a double shot or double ristretto with steamed milk served in a 90ml Duralex Picardie glass. My question is what do you know of the Duralex picardie cups and are they of a better standard than the gibraltars? 

Second, what about a Flat White? Which, to my understanding is basically a capp. with less foam. (Double shot espresso with steamed milk in a 150ml porc. cup - usually tulip probably an aesthetic choice) Would you put this in the same field as a gibralatar? 

Interested to hear your thoughts.
Pangi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg,<br />
Thanks for that article, I found it a bit of a laugh and an interesting fill in the gap piece. I&#8217;ve starting seeing this gibraltar around the place and wondered what the buzz was.</p>
<p>Couple of things, first off, ever heard of a piccolo latte? It&#8217;s apparently common in NZ and Australia. From what I&#8217;ve read it&#8217;s a double shot or double ristretto with steamed milk served in a 90ml Duralex Picardie glass. My question is what do you know of the Duralex picardie cups and are they of a better standard than the gibraltars? </p>
<p>Second, what about a Flat White? Which, to my understanding is basically a capp. with less foam. (Double shot espresso with steamed milk in a 150ml porc. cup &#8211; usually tulip probably an aesthetic choice) Would you put this in the same field as a gibralatar? </p>
<p>Interested to hear your thoughts.<br />
Pangi</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/04/gibraltar-the-fools-cappuccino/comment-page-1/#comment-4989</link>
		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you&#039;re right, Ted. It&#039;s just that the thought of having to ask for a Gibraltar in a ceramic demitasse is bassackwards, to say the least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you&#8217;re right, Ted. It&#8217;s just that the thought of having to ask for a Gibraltar in a ceramic demitasse is bassackwards, to say the least.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Lemon</title>
		<link>http://theshot.coffeeratings.com/2009/04/gibraltar-the-fools-cappuccino/comment-page-1/#comment-4984</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Lemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 23:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re missing the point.   God yes, if I could go into any espresso shop and order a cappuccino and get a &quot;regulation cappuccino,&quot; that would be a fabulous thing.   I&#039;d love it.   But that&#039;ll happen when pigs fly.   Drowned cappuccinos are the standard in the U.S.   You nor I have the power to change that, complain though we may.

These little fads are nature&#039;s way of correcting for linguistic drift, in much the same way that the terms &quot;caffe macchiato&quot; and &quot;espresso macchiato&quot; have ascended to correct for Starbucks&#039; bastardization of the term &quot;macchiato&quot; to mean &quot;latte marked with an easily-reproduced-yet-somewhat-appealing design in caramel on the top&quot; instead of &quot;espresso marked with not quite enough milk.&quot;

Language evolves.   More&#039;s the pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point.   God yes, if I could go into any espresso shop and order a cappuccino and get a &#8220;regulation cappuccino,&#8221; that would be a fabulous thing.   I&#8217;d love it.   But that&#8217;ll happen when pigs fly.   Drowned cappuccinos are the standard in the U.S.   You nor I have the power to change that, complain though we may.</p>
<p>These little fads are nature&#8217;s way of correcting for linguistic drift, in much the same way that the terms &#8220;caffe macchiato&#8221; and &#8220;espresso macchiato&#8221; have ascended to correct for Starbucks&#8217; bastardization of the term &#8220;macchiato&#8221; to mean &#8220;latte marked with an easily-reproduced-yet-somewhat-appealing design in caramel on the top&#8221; instead of &#8220;espresso marked with not quite enough milk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Language evolves.   More&#8217;s the pity.</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You certainly wouldn&#039;t be the only one, but you&#039;ve missed my point, Sam. This post was by no means an exercise in beverage vessel Nazism. Our objections were based on two things:
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&lt;li&gt;The inability, or refusal, of many places to make a proper regulation cappuccino instead of the voluminous North American de facto standard&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;The dubious promotion of signature drinks over regulation drinks for ulterior motives&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You certainly wouldn&#8217;t be the only one, but you&#8217;ve missed my point, Sam. This post was by no means an exercise in beverage vessel Nazism. Our objections were based on two things:</p>
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<li>The inability, or refusal, of many places to make a proper regulation cappuccino instead of the voluminous North American de facto standard</li>
<li>The dubious promotion of signature drinks over regulation drinks for ulterior motives</li>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 06:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It reminds me of the Afrocano at Cafe Teriste. 
But really its about this, it is a regulation Signature Drink and should be promoted like any drink that a Barista has created and is proud to share. The more passion and enthusiasm the customer sees in the Barista the better their experience will be. Isn&#039;t that part of a service based industry? And won&#039;t that serve the industry better that squabbling over what glassware we &quot;have to&quot; use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It reminds me of the Afrocano at Cafe Teriste.<br />
But really its about this, it is a regulation Signature Drink and should be promoted like any drink that a Barista has created and is proud to share. The more passion and enthusiasm the customer sees in the Barista the better their experience will be. Isn&#8217;t that part of a service based industry? And won&#8217;t that serve the industry better that squabbling over what glassware we &#8220;have to&#8221; use?</p>
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		<title>By: hate bender &#187; t o n x . o r g</title>
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		<dc:creator>hate bender &#187; t o n x . o r g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like Twilight fans, coffeegeeks are notoriously easy to troll, and I guess I&#8217;m not immune. Take an ill-informed premise, add in some vague anti-hip [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] like Twilight fans, coffeegeeks are notoriously easy to troll, and I guess I&#8217;m not immune. Take an ill-informed premise, add in some vague anti-hip [...]</p>
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		<title>By: TheShot</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheShot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 17:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;d submit our overwhelming proof to your satisfaction, but unfortunately applying the slender-body theory requires non-linear fluid dynamics graphs -- not to mention a comparison of the coefficients of thermal expansion, and resistance to thermal shock, based on the framework silicates used in glass vs. ceramics. And blog comments just aren&#039;t the place to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;d submit our overwhelming proof to your satisfaction, but unfortunately applying the slender-body theory requires non-linear fluid dynamics graphs &#8212; not to mention a comparison of the coefficients of thermal expansion, and resistance to thermal shock, based on the framework silicates used in glass vs. ceramics. And blog comments just aren&#8217;t the place to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have done nothing to prove that the Gibraltar is an inferior sensory experience. You have complained about glassware and standards which are less codified than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have done nothing to prove that the Gibraltar is an inferior sensory experience. You have complained about glassware and standards which are less codified than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 07:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have done nothing to prove that the Gibraltar is an inferior sensory experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have done nothing to prove that the Gibraltar is an inferior sensory experience.</p>
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