Trip Report: Rodger’s Coffee & Tea
Posted by TheShot on 16 Mar 2009 | Tagged as: Beans, Local Brew, Machine, Roasting
At CoffeeRatings.com, we believe that what the end consumer experiences is what matters most, regardless of who is behind the results. But often the story about coffee becomes more of a story about people. Rodger’s Coffee & Tea is a good example of this — where knowing a little of the back story helps provide a reference point describing some of what goes on in the cup.
Coffee Magic and the Birth of Philz Coffee
The story of Rodger’s Coffee & Tea centers around its owner and founder, Rodger Bories. Mr. Bories started a wholesale coffee business in the Bay Area going back to 1982, which later evolved to become Coffee Magic. In that time, Mr. Bories recognized how coffee freshness is a big determinant for whether brewed coffee tastes any good — or not.
While Mr. Bories remained a background figure, in 2002 he partnered with Phil Jaber of Gateway Liquor at 24th & Folsom Sts. And here is where the versions of events can start to vary, depending on whom you ask. According to Mr. Bories, he was invited in to fix some rather awful coffee operations at Gateway Liquor. The fruits of their partnership inspired a successful coffee quality turnaround at Gateway Liquor, which in turn inspired Phil Jaber to strike out on his own to launch Philz Coffee.
Mr. Jaber, being the ultimate showman that he is, took the path of becoming the P.T. Barnum of SF’s specialty coffee world. Meanwhile, Mr. Bories focused on the back-office details of producing quality roasts, ensuring freshness, and using the right equipment. However, as is now blatantly clear, that partnership ultimately ran a bit sour. Mr. Bories has since opened his first retail café at this location in January of this year, bringing with him the “One Cup At A Time” filter coffee concept he helped develop for Philz Coffee.
A mix of the old and new coffee schools
There’s a lot to believe in Mr. Bories’ telling of events. His café exhibits a much greater knowledge and care of bean origins, roasting styles, preparation methods, and techniques than you will find at a Philz Coffee. It also explains why we’ve long felt Mr. Jaber loved the celebrity but couldn’t be bothered with the mundane back-office details of the coffee business.
However, Mr. Bories, with 27 years in the business, is hardly a “Third Waver” — and that turns out to be a good thing. While his roasts show an attention to quality bean sources and freshness (despite the open bins of stored beans in the shop), he’s also not afraid of roasting into the second-crack for darker roasts. Neither is he afraid of blends (just without some of Philz Coffee’s fairytale names for them).
This results in beans that have a combination of freshness and roasting style that are difficult to come by in the Bay Area. We purchased a pound of their limited edition Brazil Poco Fundo for home espresso use ($13/lb). And while it is a single origin coffee, it produced some attributes in body and flavor roundness that you can’t easily find in the coffees of so-called Third Wave roasters. Most importantly, the quality of the espresso it produced, while not necessarily superior, compared well with the same roasters.
As for the café…
The café is located in the ground floor corner of what looks like some Mission district condo gentrification. They have limited sidewalk seating out front on benches and plastic chairs. Inside there’s a bench and some limited window counter stool seating, but the main attraction is standing up at the coffee bar for service “Italian style”.
Standing at the bar, you can identify dozens of coffee varietals in plastic bins: some blends, but many with geographic designations. You can choose any kind you like for espresso — more than you would practically want, actually. This despite the main attraction of individually-made filter drip coffee. Their hot chocolate preparation is also quite a bit of Benihana-style visual entertainment. The staff is friendly and generally sarcastic, and we like that. Coffee industry rags cover the inside counters.
For our espresso shot, we chose the limited edition Brazil Poco Fundo, in place of the usual Brazil Fazenda. They are careful to grind to order and are conscientious about their beverage preparation. Using a two-group Synesso machine (another example that would never dawn on Philz Coffee), they unfortunately pull overly full espresso shots in a cup without a saucer.
Our primary complaint here is the large pour volume, as our home results with the same beans and shorter pulls proved much better. Still, the shot has a healthy layer of a medium- and light-brown crema, with a body that is somewhat thinner given the size of the pour. It has a simple herbal flavor with some spice and smoke, but you can tell it’s fresh.
Decent beans hindered by faulty pull sizes result in a cup that’s not all that much better than average. They should be capable of something better here — closer to what we produced at home. Perhaps given their young stage, improvements are coming. Cash only.
Read the review of Rodger’s Coffee & Tea.
8 Comments »
Add it to the mission coffee crawl! So do you know who Philz actually does use now as a roaster?
I did get the impression that Philz has been using Coffee Magic up until quite recently at least. I can’t say with any certainty (without asking the Philz folks) if they’ve made any switches, however.
Btw, I’m still up for the coffee tag team plan for this weekend.
I want to like this place, but so many things about it are wrong. The interior looks messy, the choice of coffee blends is poorly presented and overwhelming, they overextract their espresso, and the way they oversteam milk is abusive bordering on criminal. The beans are the only element that seems decent.
I realize that this is an espresso review site, but Rodger’s unique-ness is in his pour over methodology. I was recently there for the first time and was very impressed. I might describe his hand-crafted coffee as an “espresso shake” – and not because of any cream or sugar in the cup. It has exceptional body and smoothness: much of the richness of an espresso volumized with great body retention.
Second, and related to the formal review which I very much enjoyed, I think the Bay Area tends to make ristretto rather than espresso, or espresso as I like it. I think the 1 to 1 and a 1/4 oz for a single shot is a good measure. I have not tried espresso at Rodger’s (but plan to and I will ask Rodger to pull the cup), but the picture does look over-watered. As for over-extracted, for me that is a mater of time vs. water volume, although I understand some of the problem with either.
Thanks for reading.
FWIW, I don’t think the Bay Area makes ristretti much at all. Of course, the root problem is that there’s no definitive definition of what is a ristretto.
Some will suggest in the earlier era of largely hand-pulled shots, the ristretto was made with the same amount of water as a normal shot but just pulled faster to achieve a higher coffee-oil-to-caffeine ratio. That is, more of a variation on pressure — additionally with a reduced time of contact between the coffee grounds and the hot water.
Others suggest that, more to the modern era of the automatic machine with mechanical pumps, a ristretto is simply a normal espresso shot cut off early. Namely: largely a variation on brewing time.
(Worse still are things like the Nespresso, which frighteningly defines the ristretto as a coffee flavor.)
In any case, it’s clear that the general tendency to pull long shots (e.g., 2 oz per shot or more) is the most common practice. Or at least that is the conventional wisdom.
Since we’ve recorded the data, we ran a database query for our San Francisco cafés, past and present, and of 712 reviewed SF places serving espresso shots:
(see our size definitions)
Interestingly enough, it appears that the 1-2 oz shot is actually the most common, which is about right. But with only 1.7% in the truly short range, I wouldn’t say that a ristretto is the norm.
I have moved to the area only recently, but have tried espresso at 4 Barrel and Barefoot. Both offer default doubles. I did not measure the volume, but it looked to me more like a single shot. Are your measurement standards for your impressive research based on single or double espresso?
That’s sort of a trick question! But yes — natural double shots were accounted for as mediums if they were about twice the standard size for singles: for a total of about 2-3 oz, mainly.
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